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How to find candidates for writing IPTC data?
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tumirnix



Joined: 12 Nov 2005
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Location: Germany

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: How to find candidates for writing IPTC data? Reply with quote

Hi all,
I suppose I'm not alone with the following situation:

I'm changing the categories and may be also some other
IPTC fields of a bigger number of pictures. Then I would
like to find all the pictures where the update of the IPTC
data is still necessary.
One way can be to select ALL pictures and write the
data, but this has at least two disadvantages:
- it takes more time
- the file dates are changed and the backup mechanisms
are confused

If I remember some other search criteria, like import time
or touched categories I can also reduce the number of
candidates, but this is not secure and not satisfying.

I could imagine a feature like a question at the end of
a Picajet session, e.g.
"You've made changes on categories which are not
saved to IPTC. Do you want to save this information
now? [Yes] [No]"

Thanks in advance
Tumirnix
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. In fact I would like to see an option to auotmatically save this information.

David
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tumirnix



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello again,

are there in the meantime any helpful ideas, how to find files
with changes on categories that are still not stored in the file
itself (as IPTC data).

Thanks in advance
Tumirnix
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collin



Joined: 07 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also like some way to compare IPTC data with the Picajet database so that I could update only those photos that require it. I do not think that there is any way that this can currently be done. My only suggestion is to be very organised when adding photos and update each one (use ctrl + I) individually each time you change keywords or other data on a photo.

Roger
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tumirnix



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Roger!
collin wrote:
My only suggestion is to be very organised when adding photos and update each one (use ctrl + I) individually each time you change keywords or other data on a photo.


Currently I try to do it in that way, but I loose one of the advantages of Picajet: the possibility to work faster.

Ciao
Turmirnix
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charles



Joined: 27 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tumirnix wrote:
Hi Roger!
collin wrote:
My only suggestion is to be very organised when adding photos and update each one (use ctrl + I) individually each time you change keywords or other data on a photo.


Currently I try to do it in that way, but I loose one of the advantages of Picajet: the possibility to work faster.

Ciao
Turmirnix


I'm currently doing the same thing Collin does, but agree with Turmirnix - it would be ideal to automatically find images that have un-saved metadata.

Additionally, I'd like to be able to search for images with empty metadata fields - for example, show me all images that have a blank caption. This would allow me to find images that I neglected to annotate. I tried the search with nothing in the search box, and it returned all images.

-CAT
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kasper_dk



Joined: 23 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: How to find candidates for writing IPTC data? Reply with quote

tumirnix wrote:
Hi all,
...
I could imagine a feature like a question at the end of
a Picajet session, e.g.
"You've made changes on categories which are not
saved to IPTC. Do you want to save this information
now? [Yes] [No]"

Thanks in advance
Tumirnix


The function you mention is EXACTLY what I am missing in this program! And more or less the only function setting this program in front of other image organizers like it.

Very sad that there is still no official reply from the PicaJet Team on this issue yet (hint, hint, hint!)

The two top-views in the Categories section ("All files" and "Unassigned") are really cool because the give you a quick overview of what you have, and what still needs to be tagged. Why not add another view here like "All changed" - that would extract all newly tagged images from your current session - and then with the possibility to write those new tags into the IPTC before quitting...?!


/Regards
Kasper
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Alex
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Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is hard to realise this feature at the current version. So I can propose this feature only for current session. So if you close PicaJet without saving then list with changed files will be lost.
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charles



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: How to find candidates for writing IPTC data? Reply with quote

kasper_dk wrote:

The two top-views in the Categories section ("All files" and "Unassigned") are really cool because the give you a quick overview of what you have, and what still needs to be tagged. Why not add another view here like "All changed" - that would extract all newly tagged images from your current session - and then with the possibility to write those new tags into the IPTC before quitting...?!


/Regards
Kasper


Oooo - I like that! Deffinitely a good suggestion as soon as it's possible to put it in the code base!
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Wizard
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: How to find candidates for writing IPTC data? Reply with quote

We decided to add a new category to easily locate unsaved items. Also will be added a new function/shortcut to Write All New Captions to IPTC/EXIF.

Looking for the name for this category.
Possible variants: "Unsaved", "UnUpdated", "IPTC Queue". We are looking for the ideas.

I suggest to avoid too complex names which can scared new PicaJet users Smile
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collin



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds great! looking forward to that functionality.
How about using " To Update"

Regards,
Roger
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martin10018



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: How to find candidates for writing IPTC data? Reply with quote

Wizard wrote:
We decided to add a new category to easily locate unsaved items. Also will be added a new function/shortcut to Write All New Captions to IPTC/EXIF.

Looking for the name for this category.
Possible variants: "Unsaved", "UnUpdated", "IPTC Queue". We are looking for the ideas.

I suggest to avoid too complex names which can scared new PicaJet users Smile

I would prefer "IPTC Queue"
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tumirnix



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: How to find candidates for writing IPTC data? Reply with quote

Hi Wizard!

Wizard wrote:
We decided to add a new category to easily locate unsaved items. Also will be added a new function/shortcut to Write All New Captions to IPTC/EXIF.


This is a great idea.
But do not forget the warning when closing the programm and this
category still contains unsaved files.

Wizard wrote:

Looking for the name for this category.
Possible variants: "Unsaved", "UnUpdated", "IPTC Queue". We are looking for the ideas.

I suggest to avoid too complex names which can scared new PicaJet users Smile


I agree, the category shouldn't have a too complex name. As a logo I
can imagine a floppy disk. The problem with easier names is, that they
can be mixed up with other functions, e.g. "Unsaved" without anything
can be mixed up with the quick edit functions.

Hm, all my ideas became longer, e.g. "Unsaved meta data",
"To be saved". And they are also not correct, because the meta
information is already saved, but only in the Picajet data base not
in the file itself.

Probably "IPTC Queue" or "Unsaved IPTC" would be the best.

Best regards
Tumirnix
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kasper_dk



Joined: 23 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: How to find candidates for writing IPTC data? Reply with quote

Wizard wrote:
We decided to add a new category to easily locate unsaved items. Also will be added a new function/shortcut to Write All New Captions to IPTC/EXIF.

Looking for the name for this category.
Possible variants: "Unsaved", "UnUpdated", "IPTC Queue". We are looking for the ideas.

I suggest to avoid too complex names which can scared new PicaJet users Smile


GREAT!!!! I am SO pleased to hear this! No this program is getting seriously intresting!!! ....hoping the wait for the "amazing-do-it-all-version-3" is not too many months away Wink

Anyway "IPTC Queue" / "Unsaved IPTC" or even "Synchronize IPTC" works well.

More important; I'm have to completely agree with Turminix that there must be some kind of warning/question dialog before program is closed if all unsaved data should be written to IPTC.

And then please one last prayer... Please please please get "watched folders" completely debugged - It still doesn't work for me - even in build 453....


/Kasper
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Alex
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Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: How to find candidates for writing IPTC data? Reply with quote

kasper_dk wrote:
Please please please get "watched folders" completely debugged - It still doesn't work for me - even in build 453....


Will be available at the next build.
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